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I'm Sick and Tired of Limbaugh's Hate-Speak
Are you tired of the hate-speak that has been filling the radio air waves for the last twenty years?
I am.
Twenty years ago, when the laws were changed to allow equal access to public air waves for all parties running in political campaigns, a very smart fellow by the name of Rush Limbaugh saw a golden opportunity to cash in on it, and today his nationally syndicated program is broadcast for three hours a day, Monday through Friday, on 600 radio stations across the nation.
The man pulls down an income of over $50 million a year, and his current contract with Clear Channel Communications runs through the end of 2016.
He has made his mark and his millions by pandering to folks who don't want to think for themselves. This is done to the point where his minions gleefully refer to themselves as “Ditto-heads”. In other words, “Whatever Rush says, I agree with! Whatever he says, I say, 'Ditto, Rush!'” No thinking necessary. Let somebody else do your thinking for you. It's easier that way.
To be honest with you, I never liked the man's opinions. AND, I never liked having someone else tell me what I should be thinking, or figure out what is GOOD for me. I always figured that I was smart enough to do that for myself.
I always tolerated Rush because I thought of him as entertainment for the people who didn't want to think for themselves. He even touts himself and his show as “entertainment” not “commentary.”
I finally decided that he was a menace and a jerk and despicable man with no conscience when, during the 2008 elections, he decided to make fun of Michael J. Fox for Michael's tremors. Michael did a couple of infomercials in support of stem cell research. He is a victim of Parkinson's Disease, and, in the television spots, he exhibited the tremors that are symptomatic of the disease.
Rush, rather than attack the actor's stance on conservative-despised stem cell research, decided instead to take the low road and attack the man himself by mocking Michael's shaking body and trembling voice. (At the time, Rush had his 'Ditto-cams” recording his radio show, and he also had his short-lived television show for his lemmings to salivate over.)
My wife's first husband had Parkinson's Disease. He and his family suffered with it for years until it finally killed him. He died before he was fifty. He left a wife and two young sons.
There really isn't anything funny about the disease, and there really isn't anything funny about the disease's victims shaking uncontrollably because their nervous systems are under attack.
There was an uproar over Rush's j back juvenile antics then, but Michael J. Fox himself asked the public to ignore the idiot, and instead push for more stem cell research, (which doesn't kill fetuses, as Rush and his ill-informed minions seem to think) in order to find cures for Parkinson's and other diseases.
Two weeks ago, Rush did the same thing. He launched a personal attack against a woman rather than simply disagreeing with her opinion.
The woman was a Georgetown University student named Sandra Fluke. Sandra stood before congress and stated that she supported Obama's health care proposal that will have employers cover the costs of contraception. (And, if an employer refuses to do so because of religious of philosophical reasons, the employer's health insurance company would cover it.) Sandra stated that she was in favor of the legislation because a friend of hers had ovarian cysts that could be treated only with oral contraception, and her friend's employer would not cover the cost of such drugs.
Rather than attack the woman's opinions, Rush decided that was it was right and just to wage a vicious personal attack against the woman, impugning her reputation and tearing into her with a three-day character assassination that began on a Tuesday by calling her a “slut” and a “prostitute”, and ending that following Thursday by saying that, “since Sandra thinks that we should all pay for her having sex, I think she should post her sex videos so that we can all watch them!” (In other words, the idiot missed the point of Sandra's argument entirely.)
Nice talk, huh?
(Isn't it funny how Rush and his followers never protested against insurance companies paying for Viagara? They do, you know. Guess that one just slipped by the Almighty Rushbo, huh? He doesn't mind the public paying for his sex...and I would certainly never want to see the videos of HIM doing it !!!! At least, not right after I've eaten. )
Well, since then, there has been an uproar. To date, over fifty sponsors have pulled their adds from The Rush Limbaugh Show.
Rush, in an attempt to quell the stampede of fleeing sponsors and to sooth the fears of his loyal followers, brushed these things aside last week, saying that these sponsor defections are of little of no consequence. He likened the lost advertisers to loosing a few french fries out of the packet when you get them handed to you at the drive-through.
Well, maybe not, Rush. Maybe it's a little more serious than that.
Here is breaking news on Saturday:
BREAKING: 98 Major Advertisers Dump Rush Limbaugh, Other Right-Wing Hosts
By Judd Legum on Mar 10, 2012 at 11:31 am
Industry website radio-info.com has the scoop :
When it comes to advertisers avoiding controversial shows, it’s not just Rush From today’s TRI Newsletter: Premiere Networks is circulating a list of 98 advertisers who want to avoid “environments likely to stir negative sentiments.” The list includes carmakers (Ford, GM, Toyota), insurance companies (Allstate, Geico, Prudential, State Farm) and restaurants (McDonald’s, Subway). As you’ll see in the note below, those “environments” go beyond the Rush Limbaugh show
“To all Traffic Managers: The information below applies to your Premiere Radio Networks commercial inventory...They’ve specifically asked that you schedule their commercials in dayparts or programs free of content that you know are deemed to be offensive or controversial (for example, Mark Levin, Rush Limbaugh, Tom Leykis, Michael Savage, Glenn Beck, Sean Hannity).’
This helps explain why, on Rush Limbaugh’s flagship station WABC, almost of the commercial breaks were filled with unpaid pubic service announcements . You can check out the list of the 50 advertisers who were known to have dropped Limbaugh before this report here .
But it’s not just Limbaugh that these advertisers want to disassociate with, but other big names in right-wing radio too. As the Daily Beast’s John Avalon notes, this is unprecedented in the 20-plus years that Limbaugh and his imitators have been on the air and could spell real trouble for an industry that’s already suffering demographically. Women ages 24–55 are the prize advertising demographic, but Limbaugh and other conservative hosts have steadily alienated these listeners over the years, so the sexist attacks on Sandra Fluke were “a perfect storm.”
The advertising flight is reminiscent of Glenn Beck’s Fox News program. After major companies refused to advertise on Beck’s show in light of racially insensitive comments, he was left with just fringe businesses like survival seed banks and gold sellers. Not long thereafter, he left Fox, reportedly under pressure.
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Don't believe me? Read it yourself at the link below:
http://thinkprogress.org/media/2012/03/10/442048/breaking-98-major-advertisers-dump-rush-limbaugh/
Also, this past Thursday, there were 86 commercial spots on Rush's show. 77 of those were free public service announcements distributed by The Ad Council. Of the remaining 9 spots, 7 of those were from sponsors who are in the process of pulling all of their ads from his show. So, only The Rush Limbaugh Show had only two paid commercials in three hours of broadcast time!
That leaves two french fries left in the pack, Rush. Better start scooping them up off the floor, doncha think?
See for yourself:
Rush Limbaugh's Show Filled With Free Ads; Sponsor Exodus Continues
The Huffington Post | By Rebecca Shapiro | Posted: 03/ 9/2012 11:00 am Updated: 03/ 9/2012 11:13 am
Media watchdogs have been paying close attention to the commercials aired during Rush Limbaugh's radio show, as nearly 50 advertisers have pulled their content from the program in wake of the controversy surrounding Georgetown University law student Sandra Fluke.
Think Progress has kept daily tabs on Limbaugh's fleeing advertisers and those sticking with him. AOL—the parent company of The Huffington Post—announced last week that the company pulled its ads from Limbaugh's show.
Reports about Limbaugh's Thursday program showed that 77 of the 86 spots that aired were "free public service announcements donated by the Ad Council." Additionally, seven ads were from companies "in the process of pulling their spots." This apparently left only two paid advertisements.
Advertisers began distancing themselves from Limbaugh after the conservative radio host made a series of incendiary comments about Fluke, who advocated for insurance covered contraception. Limbaugh called her a "slut," and "prostitute" who should upload videos of her having sex online so people may watch. His comments caused a public outcry, with even President Obama personally calling Fluke to offer his sympathies. Limbaugh issued a rare, public apology, which later Fluke dismissed during an appearance on "The View."
Despite Limbaugh's apology, advertisers continued to pull their commercials from his program. Two radio stations also dropped his show .
Limbaugh has spent considerable time this week defending himself, his apology, and his program. Limbaugh said that his show is doing well despite advertisers pulling their content, and will announce new sponsors in the coming days. Although his comments about Sandra Fluke outraged many, Limbaugh has continued to attack women on his program.
He called journalist Tracie McMillan another white, single, overeducated woman for a book she authored about food and the way Americans eat. "Overeducated does not mean intelligent," Limbaugh said of McMillan.
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At one point last week, Mr. Limbaugh said on his show that no major advertisers had bailed out on him, only local ones. Well,once again, the truth has never stopped Rush from stating what he wants his audience to hear. As of Saturday, the list of advertisers who have pulled their ads from his show are as follows:
Sleep Number , The Sleep Train , Quicken Loans, Legal Zoom, Citrix, Carbonite , ProFlowers, Tax Resolution, AOL , Bonobos, Sears , Allstate Insurance , Sensa, Bare Escentuals, Vitacost, Hadeed Carpet, Thompson Creek Windows, PolyCom, Service Magic, AccuQuote Life Insurance , Geico, John Deere, Stamps.com, St. Vincent’s Medical Center , Bethesda Sedation Dentistry, Cascades Dental, Philadelphia Orchestra, Goodwill Industries, Heart & Body Extract, Netflix , Downeast Energy, Capitol One , JCPenney , Matrix Direct, Reputation Rhino, Consolidated Credit, Constant Contact, RSVP DiscountBeverage, Cunningham Security , Regal Assets , Freedom Debt Relief, Norway Savings Bank, Portland Ovations, The Girl Scouts of Oregon and Southwest Washington, O’Reilly Auto Parts , Aetna, TurboTax, New York Lottery, American Heart Association and the Aquarium of the Pacific have pulled ads from the program.
I don't know about you, but I think folks like Geico, AOL, Quicken Loans, John Deere, Netflix, Capitol One, JCPenney, ProFlowers, Allstate Insurance and Sears are a little more than local businesses.
If you want to read the whole article, here's the link:
http://thinkprogress.org/media/2012/03/02/436852/rush-limbaugh-advertisers/
Now, just to add a little more to the what is possibly the longest article I've ever posted: if you'd like to add your name to the list of others who are supporting Sandra Fluke's Constitutional right (and the right of ALL us) to speak her opinions openly and freely, go to the link below and sign the petition. Then, pass the link on to everybody you know.
.http://thinkprogress.org/stand-with-sandra-fluke-b/
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Yes. Rush created a way for him to earn a living. So did Al Capone, and look how much good HE did for society! |
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And ? What? Is it the type of business Al Capone was in....booze?.....or that he didn't want to give the government a cut?.....We could say the same about the Kennedy's....booze runners....and avoid the governments cut by having a pen in hand they could use to exclude themselves.... It appears that if sector of society wants to listen to Rush....or wanted to buy booze.......well.......so what? And what is a hate-monger ? |
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Yes, Capone was in the booze business. He also killed people who disagreed with him. If people want to listen to Limbaugh, I have no problem with that. But I also support advertizers rights not to sponsor him, and I support the rest of the public's rights to boycott sponsors of shows that they deem offensive. |
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"He also killed people who disagreed with him." So ? So do others.....LONG list...even some who sit in seats of honor...!! Advertisers...so....I never said otherwise. Boycott....so....I never said otherwise. So....again....what is a hate-monger? (your words) |
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I believe that a hate-monger is somebody who purposely sets out to destroy another person or persons simply because it has some personal benefit to him or her. Hitler did it to the Jews in order to gain rally a nation behind him. Rush does it in order to gain market share and profits. A person such as this doesn't even necessarily believe the propaganda that they are putting forth; they are doing it for personal gain. |
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I believe that a hate-monger is somebody who purposely sets out to destroy another person or persons simply because it has some personal benefit to him or her. Hitler did it to the Jews in order to gain rally a nation behind him. Rush does it in order to gain market share and profits. A person such as this doesn't even necessarily believe the propaganda that they are putting forth; they are doing it for personal gain. _______ So you are saying HATING a persons agenda, or pretending to HATE their agenda, and speaking about it, is HATE-MONGERING because it is done solely for a personal gain.....?? |
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It's as if someone has collected genes fromd Tailgunner Joe McCarthy,J.Edgar Hoover,Adolph Hitler and George Wallace to bring to birth this abomination named Rush Limbaugh.Great post!! |
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I couldn't have said it better myself. A hate-monger is a hate-monger is a hate-monger! Thanks, Ragged! |
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I'll have to admit I've never listened to a whole show of his, but have caught bits and pieces while riding in my car. I do know he said, upon President Obama's inauguration that he wish for this President to fail. This, barely before he began working as the person elected by the people of this country as our President. I've NEVER wished for one of our President's to fail. Certainly, I've disagreed with the decisions of some of them, but a failed President means a failed country. Who on earth would WISH for that....Rush. Limbaugh, in my estimation, also wishes for Obama to win in November. Obama is his cash cow. Republicans are his cash cow. He milks them for all he can get from them. What idiots!! I've been pleased lately when I saw what happened to "Komen for the Cure" and when Limbaugh lost a growing number of advertisers - when they started messing with women's health choices and issues. I assure you, this is a battle NEITHER of them will ever win. Our voices WILL BE and HAVE BEEN heard. We are no longer second class citizens - and when you slam us or try to take our rights to choose away from us - there will be penalties to pay. Rush is a joke. Anyone who spends hours each day listening to him needs to get a life and find something better to do with their time. Good post! |
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Whats funny is a little research proved he never lost anything but rather almost all were shows that wanted to be advertised on non-political shows. Keep in mind I do not like the man much. |
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If you had listened to the whole story, you would understand that he wished Obama would fail because he disagreed with Obama's plan to "fundamentally change America." The majority of us are hoping that some of his plans are "failures". You have no idea how much I want his HC fiasco to fail. Never does a "failed President" equate to a "failed country". LOL @ the cash cow. The talking heads predicted his demise after Clinton left office. It didn't happen. I am a Republican, so about the idiots..back at cha!
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Cats.." and when you slam us or try to take our rights to choose away from us - there will be penalties to pay." Absoutely....when Rush says something YOU don't like....(about someone else, that you didn't hear, because you don't listen to him)....YOU can slam HIM! Because you not liking what you heard he said....allows you to exercise your RIGHT to be just like HIM in the slamming department. Now of course you know, Rush has not prevented anyone from exercising their rights....even this Fluke person, that you do not know....or yourself.....so carry on directing listeners away from his program....that you don't listen to anyway...... and....by the same token....is it okay for me to not listen to Barry...and slam him on things I heard another person say he said? |
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I agree with you here on everything you've said. I particularly agree with you when you say that Rush wants Obama to win in November. If a conservative wins the White House, Rush doesn't have a punching bag to lie about and hate. |
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As far as "a failed President doesn't equate to a failed country," I agree with you...look at George W! It just takes a LONG TIME to clean up the mess that he left. As far as equating Republicans to idiots, not so. I have a good many conservative Republican friends with whom I've shared many a beer, a good time, and intelligent conversations. However, most of these folks also think that Limbaugh is a joke who makes conservatives look bad. One Republican friend of mine thinks that Rush is really a liberal Democrat who poses as a conservative Republican just to make conservative Republicans look like jerks. I differenciate between conservative Republicans and "Ditto-heads." They are not neceesarily the same. |
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Sad but true, Holly! Good to see you here!
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Sorry Rach, but we ALL heard Rush's comments regarding Sandra Fluke. (I know, I know. You're going to say that his remarks were taken out of context...oh well). AND, why is it wrong for folks to attack Rush in the same way that he attacks others? Guess I just don't understand the double standard here. Sorry. |
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No, you don't know what I am going to say....WHY would you presume that? You can bash Rush all you want....who cares? It's is comical to see folks bashing someone, calling them names, while trying to imply bashing and name calling is wrong.....and then say...you don't understand the double standards....LOL |
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I believe if you read something besides liberal blogs you might get a little different view point. You label him an entertainer. Yet it's ok by you (by omission), for liberal entertainers to say hateful things and even mock a baby with Down Syndrome or say despicable things about teenagers. It's different for liberals I'm guessing. Rush isn't going anywhere. He has over 16000 different sponsors nationwide. You and the left are being played for fools. Fluke could get "free" or very low cost contraception from so many sources. Her goal was/is to trample Religious Rights. How pathetic is that? She chose that University to attack religious freedom nothing more, nothing less. I hope that something you hold dear will not be the next thing to come under attack. Hate speech? LOL! You might want to be careful with your terminology! It's laughable that you are sick and tired of Limbaugh's "hate speech" yet from your sources, you are devouring every single word you can find on the blogs! IMO, I think you are obsessed with him and cannot tear yourself away from listening to his radio show. Maybe there is some sort of 12-step program...just saying. |
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Uh-huh. Rush himself calls himself an "entertainer." And I DO listen to conservative commentators - Rush Limbaugh included, just to hear what the man has to say, and how, in my humble opinion, he twists the truth and manipulates the folks who adore him. Sounds like the end of your comment here is a personal attack against me. You've learned well. As far as "hate-speak." Okay. Define what YOU think the term means. |
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You said, "Sounds like the end of your comment here is a personal attack against me. You've learned well." Would you please post the personal attack? I have read and re-read all my comments to you. I don't take this lightly. Personal attacks are against the Code of Conduct . Since you think I have personally attacked you, then you should report this to the team. The only thing I can see is that, I admonished you to be careful of your terminology. Is that considered a personal attack? I am serious, if you consider what I said to you to be a personal attack, then you need to report me . I take personal responsibility for my words and deeds, right or wrong. |
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Mama, I don't take well to being called a fool or the suggestion that I need a 12-step program, because I disagree with you. However, I am not going to "report" you. I can fight my own battles. And, after re-reading it, I'm not sure if it wasn't an attempt at humor. After all my years of bogging here and at two other blog sites, I've only "reported" one individual, and that was because he was harrassing other readers that commented on my posts. I felt like I needed to protect them, and that they shouldn't be put down or attacked simply because they are stating their own opinions. If he stuck to ripping into their opinions, that would have been fine, as long as he did it civilly. However, when he started calling them names, that's when I felt like something needed to be done. Kind of like the way I feel about what Rush did to Fluke. As for attacks against me, as I said, I can handle them myself. (I mean, look at Rachel's comment here where she calls me "hypocritical". I can see that and handle it.) Have a great day! |
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I am checking out the advertisers who supposedly dropped him. We have this from All State though it is clearly listed in you link "Allstate's advertising purchase strategy has not included the Rush Limbaugh Show. Earlier today, we responded to inquiries about our advertising relationship with the show by stating we did not advertise on or sponsor it." |
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Uh-huh. And in a later statement, they said that they now WOULD NEVER consider sponsoring the show. |
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We have this http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2012/03/07/clearing_up_misinformation_on_our_sponsors |
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It is kinfa sick really almost all of these advertisers that "dropped" limbagh never advertsied with him in the first place. It has come to our attention that a handful of local radio stations may have played jcpenney radio spots adjacent to or during The Rush Limbaugh Show. To be clear, jcpenney is not a national advertiser of this show. We have a strict “No Run” policy in place specifically regarding The Rush Limbaugh Show. After jcpenney confirms the facts, we will contact any local radio station that is in violation of our radio advertising parameters to ensure that our “No Run” policy is adhered to regarding this program. All except four already did not advertise on the Limbaugh show not because they did not like the man but because they do not want to run during political talk shows. Every thing I read is the same. I a not a fan but I have no problem with a person saying what they think even if they are wrong. He made an ass of himself. |
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Great research Holly, that's why you can't pick a website that you like and think it is the gospel. I try to read on liberal as well as conservative because the truth is usually somewhere in between. Point is, like you said some of these never advertised on his time slots anyway and there have been a few that he would not allow to advertise on his time slots. I can't think of the name of the site that supposedly helps people "cheat" on their spouses. You may know the one I'm talking about but they have tried to advertise on his show and he has them removed along with a few others. Whatever happened to "We are not responsible for the content of this program and do not necessarily agree with the content". I am paraphrasing but you get the gist. By pulling their ads are they saying they agreed with him until this point? LOL! I have disagreed with many things he has said in the past. |
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Oh my....the self-proclaimed "ordained minister" is preaching again for his master......the words he drools from his filthy lips....tsk tsk |
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Please read the link about 98 prominent national sponsors have sent forth a statement that they are not only withdrawing from the Limbaugh show, but also many other conservative talk shows. I'm not making this stuff up. I'm just showing you what I've read, and where I've read it. Argue all you want, and believe whomever you choose. It's what they've reported. |
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"you can't pick a website that you like and think it is the gospel." Except if it's Rush Limbaugh or Sean Hannity....right? |
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Excuse me? I like neither Hannity or Limbaugh and have said as much here. I al sick, was bored and visited over half of those links clicked on all of them half linked back to the original article and the rest (except for sleep number because I could find no info from them) all did not want their ads on political shows. It did not matter whos show, including liberal. No politics. Two of the ones who did drop him are asking to come back as one lost all it's investors. So the people who "dropped him" acturally were never supposed to be sponsored by him in the first place.
So this point you make is moot:" And in a later statement, they said that they now WOULD NEVER consider sponsoring the show." The never did sponsor the show in the first place so they could never have dropped him ether. Almost all of the asnwers are the same "no politics" "we never wanted our commercials on political shows." Two dropped the "clear channel" Two are asking to come back....... |
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Sorry, Holly. When I made the statement about Hannity and Limbaugh, I wasn't referring to you. |
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what people fail to realize, is that many advertisers pay a station to run ads many times a day, not on any particular show, so there are times that an advertiser may not even know his ads are on Rushes show. Now they are making sure of it. I know there are missing advertisers because there was over 5 minutes of dead air time on his show the other day. The man is a fungus, a virus, a cancer here in America. He breeds hate and discontent and we would ALL be better off with out him on the air. He is much more than an entertainer as well, he is the mouth piece of the republican party and there is not ONE republican in Washington with the balls to stand up to the man and tell him to shut the fuck up. Pussies, all of them, and liars as well, like Rush, liars. And if if happens that it ends up shutting down all of these creeps, then thank you God!!! |
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Any woman defending Rushie on moral grounds could be called a camp whore.When he whips out that big cigar,you never know who may have had a"puff" before you had yours.Remember Bill Clinton and his little brown pocket rocket!
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That's exactly right, Charlie. The big news here is that on Saturday 98 companies, such as McDonalds, Geico, JCPenny and Sears have proclaimed that they will not sponsor shows such as Limbaugh's. These advertizers are driven by the same force that drives Limbaugh - profits. And the most coveted demographic target group for these advertizers is women between the ages of 22 - 55. And it is THAT group that Limbaugh and his wanna-bes have been alienating for twenty years, with terms such as "femi-nazis." Last week's escalation of terms ("slut" and "prostitute") was the straw that broke these advertizers' backs. |
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yep, I cannot understand how a woman could possibly defend the scumbag |
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exactly, I have about 3000 friends on facebook, over half women, many of them republicans, I have seen a shift away from the republican party because of this and a few other things lately. There is in no way a moral person with values of any kind could keep putting up with this crap. |
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You can keep saying that. It simply isn't true. MOST of them said they do not want their ads run on political shows of any kind. |
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I believe in freedom of speech and that includes freedom of opinion even if you do not like the opinion and even if the one with the opinion is wrong. |
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I'm affiliated with a local staion.Ad revenues depend mostly on local commerce.But when they run national ads,the price goes up big time.They can't afford to lose ANY ad sources.They dropped one guy because he was alienating listeners and advertisers.Rush and his french fried equation is stupid.A local advertiser here pays anywhere from $200 to $300 per each 30 second spot.National sponsors in Rush'es Florida market area would probably pay 2 to 6 thousand dollars per spot.Even Clearchannel communications with all of their staions could not and would not sustain those kinds of losses for long. |
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Were you talking to me? I know all of that. In fact I have said all of that on this article. Oh, and darling, it is way more than that depending on the time of day and the show. Would it surprise you to know that in spite of the TWO sponsors who left clear channel those slots are no longer open because of people rushing to get them. Oh and the dead air assumption ASSUMPTION is hilarious. The one sponsor begged to come back and was REFUSED, that was sleep number. Apprently now two others are in the same boat and negotiating. so who really left ebcause the rest of them never were supposed to be advertised on his show anyway because they specifically asked not to to be aired on any show with any political bent and to count those as "Dropped" isseriously nothing more than rhetoric and lies. All you need is google to know all of this.
All of this and i do not even listen I think he is an ass and if Hannity came up with a thought of his own his head would blow apart. I also believe in his right to an opinion even if it is wrong and the right to share that opinion. I do not believe in spreading, so blatantly, lies to TRY to back an opinion with fact. |
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That's not quite right, Holly. The statement that these companies put forth says nothing about "political shows of any kind." They specifically state that they want to avoid those shows that they consider offensive or too conversial. And that is their right to do so. |
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the man cause people to hate each other, thats NOT what freedom of speech is about, come on you know that. When the declaration was written, that freedom was so we could speak out against the government and not fear the reprisals, not so we could bash the shit outta some body. People get a grip. |
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an opinion is one thing Holly, down right attacks on peoples moral character are another, they are NOT protected under any law, why else would there be slander and libel laws? |
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No they are not protected under slander or liable if you believe them to be true at the time you said them. "The man cause people to hate each other, that's NOT what freedom of speech is about, "- that is exactly what freedom of speech is about. It is not to protect you from what you want to hear but to protect people saying the things you don't. Don't you get it? Freedom of speech was and is so we can speak our minds with out worry about reprisal from the government even if it was offensive whter we were speaking out against the government, social organization or an individual. Wow, didn't freedom of speech give you the right to bash the shit out of George Bush? Saying things far worse than callign someone a slut?
Try reading this agian. I do not thnk you understood it the first time. The judge laments that “[i]t’s unfortunate that some people use the First Amendment to deliberately provoke others,”-" that is precisely what the Framers had in mind if Thomas Paine is any measure"-. Professor Turley |
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SAME THING. They said it before this ever happened and they said NO political shows. It is exactly right. Don't spin it to win it. |
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I'm spinning nothing. I'm just quoting the wording exactly. Check the link, and there it is. |
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Holly, Do you you REALLY think that Rush believed Sandra Fluke was a slut and prostitute and a slut when he called her those names? Do you think that he REALLY wants to see her sex tapes? Or do you think he was just grandstanding, and, as he said in his apology the following Saturday, he was trying to be absurd? |
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Holly, Do you you REALLY think that Rush believed Sandra Fluke was a slut and prostitute and a slut when he called her those names? Do you think that he REALLY wants to see her sex tapes? Or do you think he was just grandstanding, and, as he said in his apology the following Saturday, he was trying to be absurd? |
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Holly, I do get it, and slander and libel woudn't exist if all speech was covered by freedom of speech. This gal has a case........Rush was past the limit, over the edge and way beyond "shock" radio, he was just wrong this time, well and many others but this one iced the cake. |
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Yes I really think he thinks she is/was a slut. The rest would be covered under parody, sarcasm and humor which covers absurdity. Which is all protected speech. |
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Read reply to MR.Wilson. I really have no interest in explaining this over and over again. These are things I deal with everyday in my work. I find it absolutely astounding and I have in fact been laughing at both of you for acting like know it all and accusing Rush of slander and Liable neither of which he is accuse and one of which you have no idea what it means. If you bothered to research and check the facts of the progressive extremist swill that is sited in this article, you would know that this is in fact untrue. Nothing iced the cake. |
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I'm not sure if it is covered un Free Speech or not. Ayn Rand once said, "You've got the right to swing your fist, and that right stops at the tip of my nose." But be that as it may, do you think he was right with what he did? |
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You're laughing at me, and I'm sitting here incredulous at you. |
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It comes to the point, Holly, where EVERYTHING in all of our lives is personal. I don't care if what he said is legal or not. What I do care about is what he said, how he said it, and WHY he said it. If he called my wife, daughters, grand daughters or female friends of mine sluts and prostitutes, I hit him. |
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Then you would go to jail unless the state you live in considers "fighting words" actionable. Georgia does. However that would not cover you hitting rush unless he had just said it to you. |
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Why? Because I believe in the freedom of speech even if you do not like it, Even if I do not like it? That is the very speech the amendment is meant to protect. It is meant to protect the speech/ideas we do not like to hear to keep the government from punishing the person saying it. I believe in that with all of me. Liable is the WRITTEN WORD he did not WRITE it he said it. I hate people throwing around terms they do not understand(apparently) to further their case. I do not like people using false facts to defend their case. As of today six sponsors pulled support. One tried to come back and after a 30 year Relation ship rush refused. Two more are in negotiations. You have three left who pulled their ad spots. Companies vie to get a spot on his show. Dead air time on the Rush Limbaugh show? DID NOT HAPPEN. It did happen at one of the OVER 300 stations that runs his show. Was it because of sponsors? NO. Technical issues. When you start re-reporting the truth I will have your back. This is bull. This whole article as well as the comments. Le tme reiterate I do nto even like Rush. I think he is a blow hard. I think hannity is a talking head with no ideas of his own. Savage is a lunatic. I also believe they all have a RIGHT to speak what they believe even is WE do not like it. |
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well, there is this woman attorney looking like shes going to file against him, she doesn't lose very often and i dont think she would do it if she doesn't think she can win, we'll see. I looked up the laws, and he certainly is culpable for slander and libel. I also spent a great deal of time on the first amendment, it'snot for saying what he did. Period. Especially since he admitted he didn't mean what he said, so in no way did he believe it. |
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".....more stem cell research, (which doesn't kill fetuses, as Rush and his ill-informed minions seem to think) in order to find cures for Parkinson's and other diseases." In early 2009, the FDA approved the first human clinical trials using embryonic stem cells. How did you determine that people who listen to Rush's program have determined that embryonic stem cells means fetus stem cells? I am quite certain that sucking, tugging, pulling a embryo (which is a human in its 0 - 2 month stage) or a fetus (which is a human in its 2 - 9 month stage) from it's mothers womb is the cause of death....not researching stem cells. One typically occurs in the delivery room...and the other in a lab....as any prudent person knows.....which has nothing to do with being a listener of a radio program. |
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Rach, if you'd take the time to check, most stem cell research does not use embryos, but they are actually taken from the umbilical cord and afterbirth tissues. |
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110% true |
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You do know most stem cells come from the placenta and cord of baby's that are delivered and can be(and are used) used the same way fetal and embryonic cells are? I am for the research but not for the government funding it. Stem cell research is is big business the government need not take part , it funds it'sself. Of course the government wants the fan fare for all the miracles produced from the discoveries. |
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There is a wide range of research going on for stem cells. I was simply highlighting your remark of somehow knowing what others think. Reports of embryonic stem cells were given the highest marks for neurologic success......which is in direct relation to Parkinson's disease.
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mm - I know stem cell research comes from a number of places.....seems the donors should be making the decision to donate.....and researchers should be funding their own projects and entitled to the results of the findings.... Government is suppose to promote the sciences and arts.....not provide the funding for it......but hey we all know how the middle man is a professional skimmer of the bootie... |
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I agree the govenment should not be funding it. |
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And you are entitled to your opinion. And you shouldn't be personally attacked because you voiced it. |
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There is nothing more dangerous than Gods self proclaimed agents walking the earth ,thinking that the Bible gives them the Divine Right to defend people such as Rush Limbaugh.I'm surprised they don't worship at the grave of James Earl Ray or Timothy McVey. |
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you never know bro, they might.........self righteous arrogant people are my pet peeve........ |
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I defend his right to an opinion and your right not to listen to his opinion and God has not a damn thing to do with it. |
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Hi Holly, I have no argument with what you have to say. We all should have the right to speak our minds, and I support everybody who wishes to do so, no matter if they agree with me or not. I have a problem with folks who would try to scare others from doing so. Rush's attack on Sandra Fluke had nothing to do with facts. He didn't even know why she was supporting the new proposed law. What he did was a vicious, slanderous and sustained character assassination (It went on for three days!) against a private citizen whose stance he disagreed with. |
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So let him look like an ass? A whole ass. Makes it easy to classify a persons character after that. Kinda like that crazy christian......the one hanging out at funerals calling the dead soldiers all kinds of crazy shit, far worse than, "slut". How many people are rushing to hang out with him? Not me, what a person says, what a person beleives, what a person knows what a person feels are all what a person IS. Rush makes it easy. I have never liked him. Many others have never liked him. Now, I am sure more people do not like him. They will dig their own holes. Freedom of speech was created to defend people like Rush and the crazy guy. I personally am glad they say what they do and have more RESPECT for a person who does than one who pretends otherwise. I have even more respect for that guy who I obviously disagree with vehemently who can still respect me even if our views are different. I do not believe in "hate speech". Thank god for the most part is is still protected because if we sensor the nitwits and allow that to happen, not only allow it but applaud it how long do you think it will take before that erodes into our opinions, if they differ being a crime in themselves? There are people who still hate black people, there are people who hate skin heads, people who hate islamic people. I personally hate haters. Theya re allowed to hate. They have the freedome to hate. It is their right to hate. Thank god they have that right because as along as they do my way less radical ideas are safe.
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Freedom of Speech is also for every citizen, not just Rush and his crew. And, in my humble opinion, he was trying to squelch Ms. Fluke. If he attacked her opinion, that is fine. However, he was attacking her character...simply because he disagreed with her. That is another thing altogether. |
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we weren't talking about Rush babe..... |
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What do you think we were talking about Charlie? I responded to these comments. How were we not talking about Rush exactly? |
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What do you think we were talking about Charlie? I responded to these comments. How were we not talking about Rush exactly? |
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tell me, why are there slander and libel laws Holly? |
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at that point we were talking about the church lady..... |
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Here's the latest in the on-going saga of The List of 98: A memo reveals that major sponsors are shunning the polarizing conservative and fellow firebrand hosts.An internal email from The Rush Limbaugh Show syndicator Premiere Networks paints the picture of a radio empire in crisis. our editor recommends
Rush Limbaugh Slams AshleyMadison.com's Sponsorship Offer, Vows to 'Never' Run Their Ads
'Rush Limbaugh Show' Broadcasts Five Minutes of Dead Air as Sponsors Continue to Flee
Industry publication Radio-Info.com reports that Premiere, a subsidiary of media giant Clear Channel Communications, has informed its stations that 98 advertisers have requested their spots not be aired during programs "deemed to be offensive or controversial," which they define as "environments likely to stir negative sentiment from a very small percentage of the listening public." Under-fire host Rush Limbaugh's talk show tops the list of shows to be avoided, marking the latest and perhaps most painful development in the fallout from his verbal assault on Georgetown student and contraception advocate Sandra Fluke. PHOTOS: Hollywood's Memorable Mea Culpas Starting on February 29 and continuing for several days afterward, the host called Fluke, who had been denied the opportunity by House Republicans to speak on a Congressional panel about birth control insurance coverage, a "slut" and a "prostitute" who was "having so much sex" that she couldn't afford birth control and should be required to post nude videos of herself online if she wanted insurance to pay for the medication. By that Friday, four advertisers had pulled out of his show. Limbaugh apologized last Saturday, though his tepid mea culpa, continued assault on his critics, a push from progressive organizations and pointed criticism from President Obama led to 50 advertisers pulling out of his show as of yesterday. Limbaugh's show on flagship station WABC broadcast over five minutes of dead airtime on Thursday as a result of the exodus. Topping the list of 98 sponsors looking to avoid Limbaugh and fellow controversial hosts are fastfood chains McDonalds and Subway; automakers Ford, General Motors and Toyota; and insurance companies State Farm and Prudential. Amongst the other programs specifically listed under the no-air list are talk shows from Michael Savage, Glenn Beck and Sean Hannity, some of the top names in conservative opinion media. |
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Wow, still saying fifty pulled advertising? "Topping the list of 98 sponsors looking to avoid Limbaugh and fellow controversial hosts are fastfood chains McDonalds and Subway; automakers Ford, General Motors and Toyota; and insurance companies State Farm and Prudential." THIS WAS TRUE BEFORE HE SAID ANYTHING ABOUT SANDRA F. THEY DO NOT WANT THIER ADS RUN ON POLITICAL SHOWS!
They didn't. the dead air also had nothing to do with advertising. Research. Even your old link about the dead air gives THINK PROGRESS credit and also in the article they say they in fact do not know why there was dead air time. Now you go find out instead of posting made up stuff. I already did and it does NOT back up what youa re saying. |
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Okey-Dokey Holly! Thanks for your input. I'm just sharing information that I've been reading and divulging my sources. |
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By the way, the link to the info in the comment above is: |
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After walking out of the hearing Thursday, Holmes Norton pulled Fluke into the hallway to allow her to speak to reporters. Fluke began to cry as she told the story of her 32-year-old friend who was diagnosed with ovarian cysts and prescribed birth control pills as the only remedy for her condition that could save her from becoming infertile. Because her student insurance did not cover contraception, Fluke's friend could not afford her medication, and she eventually lost her ovary and began experiencing symptoms of early menopause. This was said in the hallway, before reporters with a tear-stream........not under oath. Did her "friend" attend Georgetown....as is the impression left with the people? Who knows? Does Georgetown deny birth control pills under student insurance for a medical reason....NO! Did Fluke have such a concern for her friend to give her $30.00 to help her pay for pills? NO! Why was Flukes perverted claims not under oath? Because the Democraps did not follow the rules....and the Republicans would not allow them to change the rules on the spot. So what is the real story about Fluke? The democraps invited her to testify without having approval (according to the rules ALL are suppose to abide by) for her to testify. Fluke made perverted claims to the press, outside of an oathed testimony. She got called out for prostituting..........which is synomous with perverting.....the truth! Who is Norton? (who walked out of the meeting, so was not privy to what all was said, but remained in the hallway with some reporters) Delegate Eleanor Holmes Norton (D-D.C.) BOO HOO |
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Prostituting her agenda makes sense :) |
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"Are you tired of the hate-speak that has been filling the radio air waves for the last twenty years?" Sure am, but it's never going to change, because the lefties and righties will keep making excuses for their foul-mouthed talking heads for as long as long as these vitriol-spitting bags of charm and wit keep spewing their trash. We'll see insincere apologies by the perpetrators, excuses by their mindless followers, outrage by their hypocritical detractors, and nothing will change. Great, isn't it? |
Rush created a way for him to earn a living....
....whoo hoo for him... INDEPENDENT...and NOT a government DEPENDENT beggar!!
I wish more would take the risk and SUPPORT themselves. The ONLY thing worse than a BEGGAR....is someone like FLUKE who begs ... supposedly on behalf of others!!! Really...is this Nation so full of stupid, untalented, lazy people that they must have someone do their begging for them?
What next...surrogate street beggars?
"Sandra Fluke's Constitutional right".....to WHAT? What Constitutional RIGHT did she have violated that is in need of attention?