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From Alinsky "Ridicule" to a Constitutional Crisis. An outrage in the making!

Added: Sunday, September 5th 2010 at 8:48am by JoAnneMor
 
 
 

  I'd like to call your attention to a situation that is not only a Constitutional crisis, but a possible life and death issue for a decorated United States Soldier and American citizen, Lt. Colonel Lakin.

 Lakin is not only a soldier, but a well respected physician. He has served our country honorably for sixteen years. Lt. Colonel Lakin has well earned his rank throughout those years.

  Lt. Colonel Lakin was ordered to deploy to Afghanistan.  He had doubts about Obama's legitimacy, so he set out to see what he could find. Lakin wanted to be assured he was following legitimate orders given by a legitimate Commander in Chief.

  After going through all the channels, resources and avenues within the military framework, he could still not find any documentation or witnesses who had ever seen proof of Obama's legitimacy . No birth certificate. No records available to reassure him that Obama was in fact eligible to be Commander in Chief.

  Another red flag was Obama's first act, once in office, was to sign an Executive Order to seal his own records. Very unusual and suspicious indeed!

  Needless to say, Lt. Colonel refused to deploy until he could be guaranteed he was adhering to the oath he swore to Uphold and defend the Constitution of the United States, therefore bringing his own Court Marshall.

  On Friday, Colonel Denise Lind, who is the judge presiding over his trial, made a shocking and illegal ruling in his case. The judge denied Lt Col Lakin his right to discovery. He was refused the ability to call witnesses and to demand documentation of Obama's legitimacy.This is a violation of Lt. Colonel Lakin's civil rights. He was denied the ability to offer exculpatory evidence in his own defense.

 Now before anyone tries that Alinsky "Ridicule" crap on me I would like to say the tactic will be futile. I'm over it.

The questions are valid and if anyone wants to call me a Birther, go right ahead, if you have the document to back it! Obviously the military and courts do not have that info!

Not only is it a Constitutional Crisis for both Lakin and the USA when a judge feels they have the right to violate Constitutionally guaranteed rights,but it affects every soldier and every American. It is now a life or death matter. Lakin could face a firing squad.

How far are we willing to allow this to go? How tight will people cling to the denial? Are we willing to sacrifice even one American soldier, let alone "all" of them to prepetuate a lie?

To all those who would attempt the Alinsky ridicule on the military I'd like to point out how stupid you will look.

Military deals in fact not fiction. Present the requested docs or shut up.

Now I would like to offer a couple of links and a vid to outline the rest of the story.

Let's start here.

That video is a great outline of what is happening.

Since the ruling, High ranking members of the military, both current and retired have stepped up. Not just for Lakin, but the Constitution and the far reaching implications this has for all military members.

This is a link to an audio. 3 Star General McInnerny granted an interview to a radio show. They lose connection twice, but they are able to re-connect. Plz be patient during pauses, or click curser in bar to advance the tape.

 

http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2010/09/gen-mcinerney-discusses-why-he-has.html

 This is a good way to end this article. It's a report from the post and mail newspaper.

Who’s an “Embarrassment,” Judge Lind?

IS AN “EMBARRASSING” DETAIL OF OBAMA’S LIFE MORE IMPORTANT THAN SENTENCING AN INNOCENT MAN WITH 18 YEARS OF SERVICE TO HARD LABOR?

by jtx

 

Is Lt. Col. Terry Lakin the victim of a kangaroo military court by order of Obama? What does Judge Lind know about Obama's records that is "embarrassing?" Does the entire military command know that he is a liar?

(Sept. 4, 2010) — Certainly not LTC Lakin, whose defense you are totally denying by your pretense that “laws don’t matter” and ruling in your opinion that, in effect, a man who has never shown himself to be legally eligible to hold the office he now occupies may issue binding orders as though he were legally the Commander-in-Chief. The further ruling implicit in your order is that Obama is eligible and you make such a determination by judicial fiat and with no evidence to support that opinion.

In other words, you rule that everyone must assume that he is eligible and THEN we’ll go from there, regardless of the requirement in the United States Constitution that the man SHALL be a “natural born Citizen” since you believe that it might “embarrass” him to insist that he follow the laws of the very Constitution that not only he, but you yourself, took an oath to protect and defend from all enemies “foreign and domestic.” Perhaps, Colonel, it was so long ago that you no longer remember that your oath was:

“I, _____ (SSAN), having been appointed an officer in the Army of the United States, as indicated above in the grade of _____ do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign or domestic, that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservations or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office upon which I am about to enter; So help me God.” (DA Form 71, 1 August 1959, for officers.)

How is it you know so clearly, Colonel Lind, that you can override the black-letter law of the United States Constitution with your ruling from the bench??? Are you so arrogant that you believe yourself to be superior to both the Constitution and the Supreme Court and can merely abrogate part of the Constitution with your pathetic decision??? Do you believe that you can do this when it is only a Constitutional Amendment that may legally do so??? Believe me, dear lady, that is above your pay grade…way above it.!!!

Your assumption that only Congress may take an action related to Presidential eligibility is also patent nonsense, and in fact, your court is being asked to make no such “removal” nor even an eligibility determination, but to issue the necessary orders to collect the information (factual evidence) that would allow a court of competent and proper jurisdiction to make such a determination if necessary. It would be properly heard in the United States Supreme Court and it would be that court which would make the eligibility determination, not yours. If the factual evidence gathered from your discovery rulings appear that they might, indeed, solve the eligibility conundrum, then the case would quickly be handled by the Supreme Court, which in our system of laws, is the final arbiter of Constitutional meaning and interpretation. It would be that court which would direct via a court order that Congress must remove the man since your ruling to thateffect,evenif you made it, would have no merit. And it would not necessarily be by impeachment as you suppose, so you are also incorrect on that promulgation as well.

The part your court would properly play would be in the discovery of evidentiary material, not in its interpretation and ruling thereon, since – clearly – no military court is vested with the ability to interpret the Constitution and make any binding ruling on its meaning, especially so in this matter. You perhaps are not aware of it, Judge Lind, but there are many, many millions of Americans who now realize that Obama is a usurper and that he cannot show himself to be eligible. There is far more evidence and information showing him to be ineligible than showing the contrary. In fact, the preponderance of those believing him ineligible consider him to be clearly a domestic enemy of America as his actions more and more clearly demonstrate. The clear belief is that the man is intentionally trying to destroy as much of our laws, economy, institutions, and culture as possible and do so as quickly as possible. You may not agree and that is your right,butisit also your right to make the unilateral determination that Obama is legally eligible under our laws (with absolutely no evidence), which is exactly what your decision has implicitly suffused into not only the defendant before you but the entire military machine of America?

THAT’S the EMBARRASSMENT, Judge Lind – and whether the President is “embarrassed” or not matters not a whit in view of the fact that your thoughtless ruling will quite likely automatically cause a multi-year prison term at hard labor for LTC Lakin…or perhaps you don’t think that’s an embarrassment??? It also by implication says that you “know” the man is eligible while neither seeing nor soliciting a shred of evidentiary material. You’ve made an ill-considered and shameful ruling completely unworthy of someone in your position.

If you would issue the requisite orders to obtain the discovery material sought (and that IS within your purview) and that evidence clearly shows the eligibility requirements are met, then fine; the case is finished. If not, then it MUST be your duty to refer it and the evidence gathered to the Supreme Court for proper Constitutional determination and action. Your court would play no further part in the matter. As it is, you overstep the bounds that by all reason should guide your court.

http://www.thepostemail.com/2010/09/03/whos-an-embarrassment-judge-lind/

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This is a real travesty....no, that word is not nearly strong enough, but I don't know how else to describe it, without adding several expletives.

There is so much of this crap going on, and our Emperor just sits up there in the white house....when he's not on vacation....and laughs at us behind our back, while he's plotting his next illegal, unconstitutional move.  Something has got to be done, and soon!

mamakat.

You are right.

Post note. Those docs may either incriminate or exonerate. Both sides of the coin should demand answers.

Absolutely.  But you know that isn't going to happen.  "The One" will see to that.  People have been demanding answers for more than a year and a half, now, with no results.  I forwarded the link to this post to all my email friends.  I also intend to forward the link to the video to my senator and congresswoman...  Both are republican and quite conservative. 

Thank you. It's time to demand answers. The questions are valid.

Yes, the questions are valid, and should have been addressed a very long time ago.

Just saw this at Facebook. We should listen online to what these American heroes have to say in the matter.. It must be serious to put their careers and reputations on the line to discuss.

Stand Up America Radio Today 3 to 4 PM ET. Guests: MG Paul Vallely and LtG Tom McInerney http://www.micro1650am.com/ RE: LTC Lakin

I just emailed my congressional representative....

mamakat. Thank you. The implications are widespread. This is a very serious matter on all aspects.

Fools have been won over and the voice of reason has been silenced. The only fighting I will do, or my family, is for the homeland and against traitors like Obama.

If the military is to save themselves, now is the time. This needs resolution.

Rut. No motre silence. The ones who do the ridiculing do not have the docs to back it up.

The military and courts do not have the docs.

Time to laugh at them for their stupidity. They are all to eager to try to please those who will not help them by releasing the evidence. Only a fool would buy this lie with not one shred of proof. Step over them.

They have no facts. All they have is fiction. Even their denial is fake.

What is your prognosis of our future based on your knowledge of what is happening?

If we do not act soon, we are all done.

Our money, gold and Constitution have been stripped.

We are being handed over to UN jurisdiction and international law, using Az as the vessel (UN human rights council). From Nov until Jan we will face the worst crisis we have ever seen. We will either unite or surrender. No choices left!

So far, the media is controlled, the military can't get proof of legitimacy, banks, financial, insurance, healthcare, housing, transportation, big industry such as GM, education have all been seized. The EPA has been expanded. They are practicing Cap and Trade without a Bill. All that is left to set up is the Exchange. That can be done in Reconciliation.

Waterways are being seized via exec orders, Great Lakes, Gulf, Chesapeake. Soon all water and coast will fall under expanded EPA. There is a Bill in the House to seize all food control. It was written by Monsanto. It is actually a globalist Bill.

My advice. buy gold and silver. Sit on it. Don't even sell a broken earring. You will be able to buy other currencies.

Stock up on food water toiletries as well as pet foods and items to barter.

Move all money and assets to Bank of N. Dakota. It is the only sovereign bank in country. Bank of N. Dakota is not connected to Fed Reserve or FDIC.

Familarize selves with the People's Republic of Tx. Not state of TX. There is a difference. PRoTx Has an infrastructure and a gold standard reserve set up.

Speak up. Speak out.

These folks are in their end game. They have already begun removing our flag from official websites. We are just getting on the field.

I hope our military breaks rank and demands proof.

We need them at home right now. Them and their hardware, before they no longer have access to hardware.He is reducing the military up to 40% and empowering his hired "private" military with more responsibility and resources. He has already cut Brass.

Rut. Just got this.

 I think I am right.

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This was such a good article.  You picked a lousy time to post it.  This place is a ghost town this weekend.   Nobody is here--at least not many of the grown-ups...guess they're all out at BBQ's. 

You should have had 20-30 comments by now in response to this horrific story. 

Maybe you should try re-posting it after the holiday.

mamakat. Thank you.

Her ruling was just issued Fri. This is a growing scandal. A decorated Soldier is on the line. All soldioers are on the line alomg with him if these questions are not answered.

I wonder if our soldiers follow illegal order, can they be tried in court for war crimes? They really need the answers no matter which way the chips fall.

Thanks Joez. Maybe AZ should sue Holder. Make Holder prove his boss is elegible therefore making Holder legit. Of O not Legit, neither is Holder.

Sue his cabinet and Czars too. Make them prove their boss is legit enough to appoint them.

Joez.

What's the big deal? If O is legit, Lakin loses. That should be easy for O supporters to understand. It sure would make O's supporters' jobs easier if they had docs.

And that's the crux of the whole deal.  When People started questioning the situation, they should have produced the documents.  NOW, a year and a half later, they still haven't done so....what do they expect us to think?  That we're just supposed to take his word for it????  Sorry....that doesn't wash.  No wonder more and more common Americans (those not into 'conspiricy theories' ) are starting to believe it.  If he could prove it, he would have done so months ago, to eliminate this shadow over his head.

 

 

I'm sure that's the case.  That is why no documents have been forthcoming...that is my whole point.  If he had them, he would have produced them a loooong time ago.  He can't.  On top of all the other things he is...he's a fraud and an imposter, not even eligible to hold the office.

You're absolutely right!!!!  A large percentage of people are beginning to feel that way, too.....

I believe so too Joe and have all along!  You are right NO other President has hid their records!  And think of how much $$$$ he is and has spent to keep those records hidden.

Perhaps the best course of action right now is for Lakin's attorney to request a stay for the courtmarshall until after the November election.  That's only pushing it out a couple of weeks, but can make ALL the difference.  If the Dems lose power and Repubs take Congress, they can and most certainly will call for investigations into many things regarding Obama.

We can send letters to the Judge to pressure her to wait until the new Congress is seated.  And we can contact Republican's who are running in the general election to alert them to this case and ask for their support when they're elected into office.

What do you think?

Should we send our letters for the Judge to Lakin's attorney?

Question: Has Joanne bothered to do any research on the claim's she's making, i.e. gotten some legal advice from someone with expert knowledge, or is she simply parroting something she heard from the usual sources, chain-mail? I ask, because her post claims Lakin's civil rights were violated, something that seems to be completely unsupported by the post. She talks about "right to discovery" but when you actually read the legal definition of the word, the "cause of action" Lakin is attempting to frame apparently has absolutely nothing to do with it. The cause of action is Lakin's violation of his sworn duty, not Obama's citizenship or lack thereof.

To put it another way, if I hypothetically beat the snot out of someone, they don't have to prove they didn't deserve it. My hypothetical actions broke the law.

The case is about Lakin refusing to deploy. The root is he feels he is following orders from an illegal CIC.  If O is legit, Lakin loses. It's that simple.

If you believe Lakin is wrong, that's fine. Show the docs. Prove him wrong and call it a day.

Know The Truth

I feel Lakin should appeal the judge's ruling. Using her words as grounds. "Embarrassment" is not a legal reason to dismiss discovery of exculpatory evidence.

I think we should donate to his legal fund.

We should make a huge deal out of this. Call our Reps. Write them. Email and fax them.

What you believe is the root and what constitutes legal "cause of action" are not the same thing. I am speaking in strict legal terms here. After all, it's legal terms that define civil rights abuse.

In other words, it's not ANYONE's obligation to prove Lakin wrong, it's Lakin's obligation to prove that a soldier has the right to break the law if they don't think they have all the information they need.

He'll never be able to do that, because soldier's don't have that right.

He should NEVER be able to do that, because that's an invitation to anarchy, forcing the government to answer directly to the military. As shown by the central American countries, that's not ever a good thing.

InsidePassage.

Thank you for commenting.

How can the military get the evidence that they are following the commands of a legitimate CIC?

They must consider the repercussions of possibly being tried for war crimes, if they are engaging in illegally ordered operations.

How can these questions be answered?

This is insanity. We can't blindly take someone's word for it. Every American has had to show their BC at one time or another.  Why make a big deal out of it? That is what is fueling the debate.

Just show the docs and end the controversy.

The CIC does not have to prove to the military that they are legal unless impeached and called to account. Should the military, and by military I do mean those in charge, not every single solitary troop with a grudge, have cause to believe the leadership is not legitimate, they should take the proper course of action and launch a legal challenge through the only constitutional and legal channels. That being through Congress.

This has nothing to do with blindly taking someone's word for anything. It's about following the procedures set down by the wisdom of the founding fathers in the American constitution. People harp on and on about upholding the constitution, and I agree with them on that. However, they're willing to trash it at the drop of a hat, opening doorways that should not be opened, doorways that can and will kill this country and everything left that it stands for.

I cannot and will not ever agree with that.

They want the questions answered? Do it the right way and be willing to accept that they might not get what they want.

As far as what's fueling this campaign, it's very obvious what's fuelling it. Not racism, not bigotry, but rabid partisan and ideological hatred. How else can you explain construing a normal act of presidency as something secretive and conspiratorial? The last four presidents have done the very same thing, yet the current president is a bad person for doing it?

Load of crap. Nobody demands a BC from every president. This is a first and a unique event.

 

InsidePassage.

RE: " normal act of presidency as something secretive and conspiratorial?"

Why has he sealed his records?

He should be impeached for making it impossible to verify he is Constitutionally eligible.


Does that mean you believe we should do the same then to Bush Jr, Clinton, Bush Sr., and Reagan? After all, like I said, they've all sealed their records as a point of order.

Brownie point if you can tell me exactly why an honest person would seal their records upon attaining presidency.

Embarrassing?  When does sparing anyone embarrassment trump truth and justice for any American citizen, much less a Military individual?

That one word should automatically invalidate the "judge's" ruling...and throw the spotlight on her!  She should be investigated for gross misconduct unbecoming an officer by her peers. And how does she KNOW facts revealed will be embarrassing to obama?  She is assuming and there is no room for assumptions in a court of law.  Or is she assuming?  What exactly does this woman know?  And how does she "know" it?

I'm so angry with this ruling.  General McInnerny just nails it in his interview! 

Thanks for the video...it explains this fiasco and kangaroo court in plain and concise terms.  Good work again joanne!

ps...I tried finding out just who this Col. Denise Lind is but her background info is sparse.  Still looking.

mikeysmom

I am not sure about Lind either. She may be sending an SOS or, they got to her.

He must have grounds for appeal, just by using her words. I am looking deeper into it.

As am I joanne.  You probably will be able to dig up more than me so I hope you keep us posted!  Thanks.

mikeysmom

I will post any developments as soon as I find them.

Thanks joanne.

 

I was thinking she's sending an S.O.S.  Her words bode well for an appeal.

BTW, did you know they required a SENATE HEARING to determine if McCain was eligible to run for President because he was born in Panama?

Precedent is now set in the Congress... whenever there's reason to question eligibility, they do so with a Senate Hearing.  Since Obama's grandmother signed an affidavit stating she was present at his birth in Kenya, why didn't the Senate have a hearing to resolve the question?

Until the 2008 election, there's never been a time in modern history that candidates didn't willingly and openly provide birth and school/university records when asked.

And not until 2008, that I know of, was there a question of eligibility that led to a Senate Hearing.  But clearly there was unequal treatment since it was done regarding McCain and not Obama.

Also, isn't it illegal to deny a Defendant his right to a defense?  Isn't that what the Judge's ruling did?... denied Larkin the possibility of presenting a defense?

Know The Truth.

I agree with you on all your points.

excellent points truth!!

The hearing on McCain's citizenship was NOT required. Prior to the election, some idiots sued to have his name kept off the ballots, and the challenge failed in court. The rumors kept persisting, so the Senate, backed by challengers Clinton and Obama, saw fit to rule on it to shut the rumors down.

http://www.politicsdaily.com/2008/05/01/clinton-obama-sponsor-mccain-citizenship-bill/

Sad that they couldn't have done a little preemptive work to shut the same crap down in Obama's case.

Inside Passage.

I agree with you there. They should have handled the Obama issues then. Wonder why they didn't?

Didn't have a legal ruling to base the bill off of like they did with McCain. To get that, they'd have had to attack Obama with a lawsuit, which would be exceedingly bad form during an election.

Inside Passage.

How could we get a lawsuit? How do we get standing?

Is there another way? Can we go after his appointees to prove by what authority they were appointed?

What other avenues can Lakin take?

How would you go about it?

Seems there is obstruction at every entrance.

There are no special avenues open to Lakin that are not open to every other American as well. His military status offers him no special standing, and isn't supposed to.

Honestly, if people had a problem with this, the lawsuit should have been initiated before the election, same as with McCain. Instead, the only people speaking out at that time were a bunch of flaky conspiracy nuts without the intelligence needed to begin furthering their cause.

Somewhere along the line, this ridiculous theory started gaining momentum that it didn't have in the first place, and didn't really deserve.

That said, there IS a constitutional process to impeaching a president and possibly having him thrown out of the process. I'm not intimate with the details, but if you wanted to find out, simply look up the Nixon and Clinton trials respectively. Both were impeachment proceedings, though neither resulted in successful criminal charges.

There were lawsuits prior to election. Dismissed for standing. He hadn't committed a crime, until he swore oath!

Lack of standing isn't based on whether you've committed a crime or not; standing is determined by meeting three very specific conditions, injury, causation and redressibility. They must -prove- these things to gain standing, and when the judges determined the case was frivolous, which refers to the injury. The plaintiff has show that they suffer or will suffer immediate 'injury' (an illegal president -would- qualify) but since they don't know for sure, they can't prove injury.

When you are prosecuting someone, you actually have to be able to prove your case, your opposition doesn't have to do it for you. If you don't have evidence, you don't have a case.

Inside Passage.

It was the Military who took Lakin to court. He has standing.

I'm talking about the lawsuits against Obama, not against Lakin.

thank you so very much joanne,  

Hi Little Birdie. So good to hear from you.

 

 

JoAnne, Have a look at this, in case you haven't seen it.

 

http://americangrandjury.org/courts-martial-defense

Thank you AJay.

I will pass that along. Can't hurt.

I appreciate you thinking of me when you saw that. Could be important.

I don't know if it will be of any help, but really think our best move as a nation will be to vote all of the jerks we can out of office, get a Senate majority and impeach the so and so.

Really an execellent post.. Good work...

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