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A Moderate Point of View: Nikki Haley's recent Comment about the Confederate Flag was simply Shameful!! How far we have Fallen as a Nation!!

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Added: Saturday, December 7th 2019 at 10:14am by AMODPOVW
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CURRENT EVENTS/PERSONAL OPINION/COMMENTARY:

In case you have not heard:

Former South Carolina governor Nikki Haley told conservative radio host Glenn Beck on Friday that the Confederate flag represented “service, sacrifice and heritage” for people in her state before mass murderer Dylann Roof “hijacked” its meaning.

Roof murdered nine African American churchgoers during an evening Bible study in Charleston, S.C., in 2015. He was an avowed white supremacist who posed for photos with the Confederate flag.

A week after the massacre, Haley, then the governor, announced her support for removing the Confederate banner from statehouse grounds.

“I think the more important part is it should have never been there,” she said at the time. “These grounds are a place that everybody should feel a part of. What I realized now more than ever is people were driving by and felt hurt and pain. No one should feel pain.”

She also said she asked for it to come down because “I couldn’t look my children in the face and justify it staying there.”

Haley, the daughter of Indian immigrants seen as a Republican rising star, was widely celebrated after taking a stand that would be unpopular with some people in her state. She later served as President Trump’s U.N. ambassador and is widely discussed in GOP circles as a potential presidential candidate.

In discussing the issue with Beck on his podcast, Haley seemed to suggest that the Confederate flag was not a symbol of hate before Roof made it so.

“Here is this guy who comes out with his manifesto holding the Confederate flag and had just hijacked everything that people thought of,” Haley said, according to a video of the interview on BlazeTV. “We don’t have hateful people in South Carolina. There’s always the small minority who are always going to be there, but people saw it as service, sacrifice and heritage. But once he did that, there was no way to overcome it.”

Haley also blamed the “national media” for “wanting to define what happened.”

“They wanted to make this about racism, they wanted to make it about gun control, they wanted to make it about the death penalty,” Haley said.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/nikki-haley-mass-murderer-dylann-roof-hijacked-meaning-of-confederate-flag/2019/12/06/f4113e0e-1854-11ea-9110-3b34ce1d92b1_story.html

What the H***????  Come on Nikki get a hold of yourself!!! As a person of color who is not opposed to the Confederate Battle Flag, I call extreme B**S*** on your remarks to Glen Beck!!  What has happened in the last several years to make you suddenly change your position on the Flag?  Is it that you think you are in line to run for the Presidency?

Here is my problem with Haley's statement!!  First, the hijacking of the Confederate Battle Flag did not start with Dylann Roof!!  You seemed to know or imply that back when you were governor..how can you forget that now?  The flag was hijacked back in the late 1860' early 1870's....and only represented Service, Sacrifice and Heritage to those who wanted to hold on to the visions of the "Old South"!!!  Hell the Battle Flag was not even the original Flag of the Confederacy.....how could she not know this??

She did the correct thing in removing the Flag from the State House and for a brief period we were discussing the Flag in its proper context, as a Historical item associated completely with its use during various Battles of the Civil War!  Placing it in Museums that told a clear history of the war had the flag regain some of its real importance....and now we get this CRAP!!!!

Let us set the record straight!!  The Confederate Battle Flag was hijacked long before Dylan Roof, much to the shame and disgrace of so many people who died under it.  It did not represent the Heritage or Culture of anyone!!  It was a Battle Flag!!  A Banner to rally troops on the Battle Field!  It was not the original Flag of the Confederacy and if it was, it than it should be held in the same disregard as the Nazi Flag is in Germany....but it wasn't!  And we need to stop regarding it as such!

Shame on you Nikki Haley!!!

It is a shame that we have to continue to do this...but ignorance seems to have no bounds!  First picture below are the Flags of the Condederacy...and you don't see anyone waving these:


Next you have the infamous Conderate Battle Flag...the one that has been hijacked by the Neo-Nazi and the Klan for more than 100 years:



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I do object to the confederate flag being displayed on public government buildings.  While it is understood that some people consider it "about history and culture"...that history and culture to me is problematic.

Nikki Haley, however, is a politian.  She is trying not to offend her constituents that still drive around with the abhored flag on their trucks.  I give her credit for at least advocating removing it from courthouses, however, she justifies it.

I agree with the allegory of the Nazi flag.

I didn't hear her interview, but it sounds like she is being two-faced. Sounds like she is wanting to run for office. Also reasd that she criticized Canada for not standing with Israel. I'm getting the feeling for who will be behind her bid for a presidency. 

You realize you are reacting to a fake news story? Not that I suspect you care. Any lie is okay if it fits your agenda, Winning?

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2019/12/07/smackdown-lefty-media-matters-eats-it-over-fake-news-story-about-nikki-haley-n2557637

Ken once again you appear to miss completely my so called agenda!!!!

My quote above equals exactly what the corrected text in your link said that it was!!  People in SC saw it as....not that she Haley saw it as!! Check my quote again!

My concern with Haley is implying that the fly was recently hijacked by Roof period!!!!  It was hijacked long before Roof and until we are willing to admit that this thing about the Battle Flag will continue!

I am not opposed to the Battle Flag....have never been opposed to the Battle Flag, but I am opposed to people on both side left and right who hijack it for their own ends!

We should all condemn the hijacking....but make sure we tell the truth when doing so.....if there are people in SC who have improper perception of the flag...educated them, just don't accept their views....thats not Leadership and that is what I am upset with Haley about! {#basic-laugh.gif}

The Confederate flag is a piece of history. Nothing more. 

Exactly.....which is why it should be left out of poltitical discussions on the left and the right!{#basic-cool.gif}

Flags are largely for aresholes!{#arc.gif}

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{#basic-laugh.gif} Tee hee!

If people want independence from the rest of a country, I think they ought to have it. Especially when large, nation sized states are involved.

I know the Confederate flag has a lot of negative associations, especially regarding race, but I'd be quite happy if they built a big fence around those states that want independence and their own social structures, and remove them from federal consideration. Let them stew in their own juices, run their own meagre internal economies (no importing oil or anything), and insist on passports if they want to cross the borders into the Land of the Free from the Land of the Three (braincells).

People outside of the New Confederacy who wanted in and those inside who wanted out, would, of course be accommodated as not everyone in the same location thinks the same as everyone else.

{#basic-angry.gif} Hey buddy! You ain't welcome in these here Rebel Lands!

{#dancing6.gif}Like I give a shit!

 

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